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	<title>Comments on: Midnight Oil :: The Politics of Diesel and Dust</title>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I used to and see the Oils regularly when they played Melbourne in the late 70&#039;s-early 80&#039;s. They were the most intense live band I have ever seen, no question. Unfortunately they lost their edge when they lost Andrew James the original bass player. I don&#039;t know if his leaving was the reason or not but their last prime recorded work was the Bird Noises EP. 

The peak of their power was the Head Injuries album, just the right balance of strong political lyrics without beating you over the head like some of their later material. But the music was the thing, really original and tough as nails. Is It Now, the closing track (pretty much forgotten fare for the band) is one of my all time favorite pieces of music, it builds to the most amazing climax, gives me goosebumps every time!

After Head Injuries, in spite of occasional glimpses of brilliance it was all downhill sadly. Still I&#039;m glad they made a success of it in the business, they deserved it. Shame about Garrett&#039;s limp political career, he&#039;d have done better as an outside agitator imho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I used to and see the Oils regularly when they played Melbourne in the late 70&#8242;s-early 80&#8242;s. They were the most intense live band I have ever seen, no question. Unfortunately they lost their edge when they lost Andrew James the original bass player. I don&#8217;t know if his leaving was the reason or not but their last prime recorded work was the Bird Noises EP. </p>
<p>The peak of their power was the Head Injuries album, just the right balance of strong political lyrics without beating you over the head like some of their later material. But the music was the thing, really original and tough as nails. Is It Now, the closing track (pretty much forgotten fare for the band) is one of my all time favorite pieces of music, it builds to the most amazing climax, gives me goosebumps every time!</p>
<p>After Head Injuries, in spite of occasional glimpses of brilliance it was all downhill sadly. Still I&#8217;m glad they made a success of it in the business, they deserved it. Shame about Garrett&#8217;s limp political career, he&#8217;d have done better as an outside agitator imho.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m so happy to see so many M.O. fans chiming in. I saw the band at the Riverside Theater in Milwaukee on the Blue Sky Mining tour and loved every bone-shaking second. Come on over to Timedoor to check out an acoustic version of &quot;Warakurna.&quot; Cheerz!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m so happy to see so many M.O. fans chiming in. I saw the band at the Riverside Theater in Milwaukee on the Blue Sky Mining tour and loved every bone-shaking second. Come on over to Timedoor to check out an acoustic version of &#8220;Warakurna.&#8221; Cheerz!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Davenport</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Davenport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For sure a great album! Thanks for reminding me. Brings back memories of hot Fresno summers and a topless Jeep with this tape on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For sure a great album! Thanks for reminding me. Brings back memories of hot Fresno summers and a topless Jeep with this tape on.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a fantastic album from a great band. it&#039;s funny because they have several very strong albums, but i never really think of midnight oil as an &quot;albums&quot; band. the best way to experience most of the music is live. there are some great live recordings of midnight oil out there. the best way to hear pre-diesel and dust material is on oils on the water, which is one of the best live recordings of anyone ever anywhere that&#039;s ever been released. but even with that, you miss a lot of great songs. 

and sure the politics were regional, and i&#039;m not austalian, but for me part of the fun of midnight oil was learning who jimmy sharman or ned kelly were or what kosciuszko was. new things and all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a fantastic album from a great band. it&#8217;s funny because they have several very strong albums, but i never really think of midnight oil as an &#8220;albums&#8221; band. the best way to experience most of the music is live. there are some great live recordings of midnight oil out there. the best way to hear pre-diesel and dust material is on oils on the water, which is one of the best live recordings of anyone ever anywhere that&#8217;s ever been released. but even with that, you miss a lot of great songs. </p>
<p>and sure the politics were regional, and i&#8217;m not austalian, but for me part of the fun of midnight oil was learning who jimmy sharman or ned kelly were or what kosciuszko was. new things and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Manson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Manson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks... I haven&#039;t played this one in ages. Got my copy in hand right now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8230; I haven&#8217;t played this one in ages. Got my copy in hand right now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Garrett got screwed. They fastracked him into the position of a candidate to attract the Green vote because of his fame and his association with environmental activism. 

He was made the Environment minister but they started gagging him before the election when they found out that letting him speak his mind meant a lot of damage control for the party as they only really wanted him for the votes not the radical suggestions for protecting the environment. 

Since the Australian Labour party won the election they&#039;ve also gone to the trouble of neutering him by giving the issues of Water and Climate Change its own portfolio and then gave that to another minister. He is now rarely allowed to talk to the media, and is forced to regurgitate party policies dictated to him which we all know are counter to his beliefs. 

I think Midnight Oil&#039;s music is absolute crap, I can&#039;t stand it, but I respect and admire what they stood for and how they brought issues to light. We need more people like that.

The Australian Labour Party has screwed him over and they&#039;ve cheated us out of voice that needs to be heard.

R.I.P. The Peter Garrett of Old

Note: I refuse to be so petty as to comment on his resemblence to Lurch from the Adams Family or say that dancing as badly as he does would warrant institutionalization in some countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Garrett got screwed. They fastracked him into the position of a candidate to attract the Green vote because of his fame and his association with environmental activism. </p>
<p>He was made the Environment minister but they started gagging him before the election when they found out that letting him speak his mind meant a lot of damage control for the party as they only really wanted him for the votes not the radical suggestions for protecting the environment. </p>
<p>Since the Australian Labour party won the election they&#8217;ve also gone to the trouble of neutering him by giving the issues of Water and Climate Change its own portfolio and then gave that to another minister. He is now rarely allowed to talk to the media, and is forced to regurgitate party policies dictated to him which we all know are counter to his beliefs. </p>
<p>I think Midnight Oil&#8217;s music is absolute crap, I can&#8217;t stand it, but I respect and admire what they stood for and how they brought issues to light. We need more people like that.</p>
<p>The Australian Labour Party has screwed him over and they&#8217;ve cheated us out of voice that needs to be heard.</p>
<p>R.I.P. The Peter Garrett of Old</p>
<p>Note: I refuse to be so petty as to comment on his resemblence to Lurch from the Adams Family or say that dancing as badly as he does would warrant institutionalization in some countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first CD ever. It was on sale for $13.99 at the time. I didn&#039;t have a CD player, but I was planning to buy one.

Now I have a CD player, but hardly any CDs. It&#039;s all been ripped to AAC.

Anyway, The Tragically Hip used to do a show called Another Roadside Attraction. For a few years, it was a pretty significant thing in Canada and it got pretty spendy.

The first year it was kind of small, unexpected and new. In Toronto, the festival was held in Markham, Ontario (it later moved to Molson Park in Barrie, a tragic venue if I&#039;ve ever seen one.)

That first great year $30 got you BOTH days of the show. Each night was headlined by the Hip, but the &quot;second&quot; headliners were Midnight Oil, Hothouse Flowers, and Daniel Lanois.

Midnight Oil rocked that thing pretty hard, stealing the show. My memory says The Hip were at least as awesome, but they had the benefit of a couple more beers and a Fifty Mission Cap.

Midnight Oil played a concert on Meers Island in Clayoquot Sound to protest the logging of British Columbia&#039;s old growth forest. They&#039;re still logging it, but less than they used to. That monstrously tall bald sasquatch Garrett deserves a tonne of credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first CD ever. It was on sale for $13.99 at the time. I didn&#8217;t have a CD player, but I was planning to buy one.</p>
<p>Now I have a CD player, but hardly any CDs. It&#8217;s all been ripped to AAC.</p>
<p>Anyway, The Tragically Hip used to do a show called Another Roadside Attraction. For a few years, it was a pretty significant thing in Canada and it got pretty spendy.</p>
<p>The first year it was kind of small, unexpected and new. In Toronto, the festival was held in Markham, Ontario (it later moved to Molson Park in Barrie, a tragic venue if I&#8217;ve ever seen one.)</p>
<p>That first great year $30 got you BOTH days of the show. Each night was headlined by the Hip, but the &#8220;second&#8221; headliners were Midnight Oil, Hothouse Flowers, and Daniel Lanois.</p>
<p>Midnight Oil rocked that thing pretty hard, stealing the show. My memory says The Hip were at least as awesome, but they had the benefit of a couple more beers and a Fifty Mission Cap.</p>
<p>Midnight Oil played a concert on Meers Island in Clayoquot Sound to protest the logging of British Columbia&#8217;s old growth forest. They&#8217;re still logging it, but less than they used to. That monstrously tall bald sasquatch Garrett deserves a tonne of credit.</p>
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		<title>By: waj</title>
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		<dc:creator>waj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update, Ben, &amp; Todd-absolutely, &#039;10, 9, 8&#039; &amp; &#039;Red Sails&#039; were veritable cornerstones of &#039;college radio&#039;...
Sadly, i don&#039;t think many in the US ever realized that this band could flat out rock live.  To this day, the loudest band i ever have seen.  Someday i&#039;ll find a bootleg of their brutal run through &#039;what&#039;s so funny about peace, love, &amp; understanding&#039;...
Thanks to all above for your comments...looks like i&#039;ve got some records to dig out tonight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update, Ben, &amp; Todd-absolutely, &#8217;10, 9, 8&#8242; &amp; &#8216;Red Sails&#8217; were veritable cornerstones of &#8216;college radio&#8217;&#8230;<br />
Sadly, i don&#8217;t think many in the US ever realized that this band could flat out rock live.  To this day, the loudest band i ever have seen.  Someday i&#8217;ll find a bootleg of their brutal run through &#8216;what&#8217;s so funny about peace, love, &amp; understanding&#8217;&#8230;<br />
Thanks to all above for your comments&#8230;looks like i&#8217;ve got some records to dig out tonight!</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also couldn&#039;t agree more.  the Oils never got quite the respect they deserved here in the USA.  But I&#039;m not sure I agree with the statement that it started a run of their best three albums.  That run, in my mind, started with the amazingly powerful (and political) 10,9,8,7,6,.... which took the USA head on for its foreign policy while still lamblasting the Aussie&#039;s at home for their apathy and lifestyle.  &quot;Red Sails in the Sunset,&quot; (which we reviewed on the Ripple Effect) is often over looked, but is an amazingly intense album that was their first serious address of the aboriginal treatment in Australia.  Then came the amazing Diesel and all your comments.  I personally find Blue Sky Mine a bit of a drop off, then they roared back with Earth and Sun and Moon.  

Todd
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also couldn&#8217;t agree more.  the Oils never got quite the respect they deserved here in the USA.  But I&#8217;m not sure I agree with the statement that it started a run of their best three albums.  That run, in my mind, started with the amazingly powerful (and political) 10,9,8,7,6,&#8230;. which took the USA head on for its foreign policy while still lamblasting the Aussie&#8217;s at home for their apathy and lifestyle.  &#8220;Red Sails in the Sunset,&#8221; (which we reviewed on the Ripple Effect) is often over looked, but is an amazingly intense album that was their first serious address of the aboriginal treatment in Australia.  Then came the amazing Diesel and all your comments.  I personally find Blue Sky Mine a bit of a drop off, then they roared back with Earth and Sun and Moon.  </p>
<p>Todd<br />
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		<title>By: J. Neas</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Neas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, I&#039;d known that Garret was an MP down there, but hadn&#039;t heard he had become a cabinet level person.  That&#039;s fantastic.  It&#039;s absolutely where he belonged all the while.  You can only change so much from outside - I&#039;m sure he&#039;s doing fantastic work within.   I might&#039;ve gone into it more in the article, but I was trying to focus mostly on the &lt;i&gt;Diesel and Dust&lt;/i&gt; era.  Thanks for the input!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, I&#8217;d known that Garret was an MP down there, but hadn&#8217;t heard he had become a cabinet level person.  That&#8217;s fantastic.  It&#8217;s absolutely where he belonged all the while.  You can only change so much from outside &#8211; I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s doing fantastic work within.   I might&#8217;ve gone into it more in the article, but I was trying to focus mostly on the <i>Diesel and Dust</i> era.  Thanks for the input!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is excellent to see Midnight Oil being praised, posthumously, on an American blog. In Australia, Midnight Oil is one of a great many bands and musicians (Hoodoo Gurus, Paul Kelly, You Am I, etc.) whose popularity within this country was matched by near-complete anonymity elsewhere around the world.

There is a part of the story which you haven&#039;t come across, however. The Oils&#039; frontman, Peter Garrett, was not only singing about politics - he was living it. During the 1980s, he was for many years the president of the Australian Conservation Foundation, and had an active role (along with current Greens leader, Senator Bob Brown) in achieving heritage listing and protection for the Franklin River in Tasmania. He went on to be extremely critical of the Hawke Labor Government, however in 2004 he himself joined the Labor Party and won the seat of Kingsford-Smith. And last year, the Labor Party won Government for the first time in 11 years.

As a result, Garrett is the current Minister (that&#039;s the equivalent of a Secretary in American politics) for the Environment, Heritage and the Arts. He is now part of the establishment. Some consider this selling out - others figure it&#039;s where he should have been all along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is excellent to see Midnight Oil being praised, posthumously, on an American blog. In Australia, Midnight Oil is one of a great many bands and musicians (Hoodoo Gurus, Paul Kelly, You Am I, etc.) whose popularity within this country was matched by near-complete anonymity elsewhere around the world.</p>
<p>There is a part of the story which you haven&#8217;t come across, however. The Oils&#8217; frontman, Peter Garrett, was not only singing about politics &#8211; he was living it. During the 1980s, he was for many years the president of the Australian Conservation Foundation, and had an active role (along with current Greens leader, Senator Bob Brown) in achieving heritage listing and protection for the Franklin River in Tasmania. He went on to be extremely critical of the Hawke Labor Government, however in 2004 he himself joined the Labor Party and won the seat of Kingsford-Smith. And last year, the Labor Party won Government for the first time in 11 years.</p>
<p>As a result, Garrett is the current Minister (that&#8217;s the equivalent of a Secretary in American politics) for the Environment, Heritage and the Arts. He is now part of the establishment. Some consider this selling out &#8211; others figure it&#8217;s where he should have been all along.</p>
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		<title>By: PopeJTE</title>
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		<dc:creator>PopeJTE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fabulous and thought out review of a great album! Thank you so much for posting this . . . I found it greatly informative and entertaining!

Pope JTE
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fabulous and thought out review of a great album! Thank you so much for posting this . . . I found it greatly informative and entertaining!</p>
<p>Pope JTE<br />
The Ripple Effect<br />
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